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Thou Shalt Not Set the Parking Brake Prior to Landing
By admin | September 23, 2007
I have to admit I always wondered what would happen if you landed with the parking brake on. I guess now I know. You’ve got to give the guy some credit for keeping the aircraft under control. I wonder if this is covered under Embraer’s warranty.
Topics: US Airways, EMB170, Embraer, Pictures |
September 24th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
I took off once with the parking brake partially on from Buffalo International once. Boy did I feel stupid. Now I feel better.
September 24th, 2007 at 5:24 pm
i fly out of buffalo every so often. now i feel… hungry.
September 24th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
I once pulled a Cessna 172 to the gas pump a few hundred feet away while the parking brake was set. Didn’t realize it until I had to really punch the power to taxi, then sheepishly released it.
Of course, I felt like He-Man for a few minutes afterwards. “Rrarr! I defeated you, Brake-Man!”
I’ve had my toes a bit too firmly on the toes of the rudder pedals once or twice while landing. Nothing quite like announcing your arrival to all the airport bums with a long screech on touchdown. I try to tell ‘em I’m just helping resurface the runway w/ a little extra rubber.
September 24th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
i thougth airplanes had anti-skid mechanisms …
guess i was wrong …
September 24th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Wow, You’re crazy man!!! but yeah!!! You did it!!
September 24th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
That’s not an Embraer.
That’s an US Airways 737-800.
September 24th, 2007 at 7:15 pm
That is most definitely an EMB-170. 737’s have CFM-56’s, and those are CF-34’s.
September 24th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
For a close up of what it suposed to look like:
http://www.defesanet.com.br/imagens/embraer/eleb/emb170_190.jpg
September 25th, 2007 at 12:58 am
So… How long was was the skid-out?
Do you think you can land on a runway from 90 degrees off length (meaning sideways?)
September 25th, 2007 at 1:03 am
Surprised that a plane such as this one would even allow for an unsafe state.
September 25th, 2007 at 2:55 am
US Airways doesn’t have any -800’s, but thanks for playing!
September 25th, 2007 at 3:33 am
I’m with miller22. That’s an EMB-170.
September 25th, 2007 at 4:33 am
It is indeed an Embraer, more pics here
http://www.dauntless-soft.com/PRODUCTS/Freebies/USAirParkingBrake/
September 25th, 2007 at 5:58 am
you didn’t fly/land this did you? Sounds like that you just found the picture somewhere. Amazing stopping power though. Looks like they’re going to need a linear pod on it just to measure shock deflection with a anti-parking brake system. (i.e. can’t engage parking brake unless the plane’s on the ground, which loads the wheel x amount).
September 25th, 2007 at 9:00 am
well quite obviously the first thing he said was “my bad.”
September 25th, 2007 at 9:21 am
Lane dividing marks are for the highway . . . not the runway! Just don’t go to work for the highway department . . . they desire STRAIGHT Lines, not wavy lines!
September 25th, 2007 at 10:32 am
OK now we have new sport - drifting with planes!
I wonder how can you catch corners with 747….
September 25th, 2007 at 12:24 pm
Given that one side is locked up it would tend to indicate a problem rather than pilot error, wouldnt it? Also this must have occured after takeoff as the pilot surely would have aborted if it was skidding all the way down the runway
Great effort to keep it all together nonetheless…
September 25th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
I disagree with you on what the pilot said. I believe it was, WHAT THE HELL. followed by OH SHIT Ha Ha
September 25th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
Yep, it’s an Embraer, ENHANCE LOSES MAJORLY!
September 25th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
“If you omit to knock the parking brake off then when you touch down you will get this amazing smell followed by 18 banks. This is usually followed by a steady knocking sound on the cockpit door. Do not worry about this , It is only the chief steward banging away with his handbag!”
September 25th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Simon, if you look at the 13th comment , you will fing a link. If you look at the last picture of the link, you will see that both tires are damaged and not only the left one. Pilot error.
September 26th, 2007 at 1:20 am
Wouldn’t he have seen this in his mirrors and known to release the park brake as it would have bellowed out some smoke.
That’s what happened to me once in my 83 Mitsubishi Colt.
September 26th, 2007 at 4:16 am
Not the first parking brake incident on E170.
See http://www.onnettomuustutkinta.fi/uploads/qtvo9q2zp6_1.pdf
September 26th, 2007 at 6:40 am
This is the reason why we have checklists while on the ground and on the air. In the “Before Landing Checklist” it specifically says “PARKING BRAKE –> Release or Unarm”
The Pilot probably missed or skipped that part. Lol..
September 26th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Never would have happened on an AirBus…
September 26th, 2007 at 6:50 pm
Sure wouldn’t have. Airbuses don’t fly.
September 26th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
Not accurate. You can not engage the parking break while in flight, sorry.
September 26th, 2007 at 9:31 pm
I get a kick out of people who say this isn’t possible. I’ve flown RJ’s for years. Its possible.
Don’t try it.
September 27th, 2007 at 12:39 am
How in the world do you get a 737 out of that? Not even close to one!
September 28th, 2007 at 4:58 am
Whoa! I bet the people on board shat themselves!
September 28th, 2007 at 10:14 pm
I am a pilot at PSA and the DO-328 had a procedure that if one of the hydraulic reservoirs got too low you were directed, by the QRH, to cycle the park brake handle in-flight. We had a captain that did this and forgot to release the park brake prior to landing. It had the same effect on the DO-328 landing gear.
The above incident occurred several years ago in DFW and it was Midatlantic, a US Airways spin off that was guilty of it. They were sold to Chautauqua and is now known as Republic.
September 28th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
Oh dang…I meant HOU not DFW
September 29th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
Roger, It can happen to AirBus too.
On 24 January 2007, an A319 landed to Leeds Bradford Airport (LBA) with parking brake on. All four main landing gear tyres deflated on landing.
Full report:
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/september_2007/airbus_a319_131__g_dbci.cfm
September 30th, 2007 at 12:55 pm
“i thought airplanes had anti-skid mechanisms …
guess i was wrong …”
They do have anti-skid protection for the normal braking system. The parking brake is a separate system and does not have anti-skid protection.
November 9th, 2007 at 7:23 am
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March 11th, 2008 at 4:00 am
OMG thats hilarious…
April 29th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
can you guys see the tire chalks on the nose gear?
ha ha watch out the tireless plane my go away